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02 November 2007 @ 10:32 am
Aca-fan help?  
Bizarrley, my fannish life and my work life is clashing a bit today :) I'm an academic librarian and I'm trying to find the source of this Henry Jenkins quote for a student to reference correctly in her bibliography.

'Fan fiction is a way of the culture repairing the damage done in a system where contemporary myths are owned by corporations instead of owned by the folk.'

I thought it would be in Textual Poachers, but I can't find it there. The only even vaguely reputable source seems to be a New York Times article:

Amy Harmon (1997) In TVs dull summer days, plots take wing on the Net, New York Times, 18 Aug

But this article is so late on it could be quoting from Textual Poachers too (published 1992) or from somewhere else - I just can't find the reference!!

Can anyone here help?
emmzzi on November 2nd, 2007 11:26 am (UTC)
the Harmon is the only source I can find

77. Amy Harmon, In TV’s Dull Summer Days, Plots Take Wing on the Net, N.Y. T
Aug. 18, 1997, at A1.

from here (long link)

Valderys: Grant Janksyvalderys on November 2nd, 2007 03:16 pm (UTC)
Thanks for looking, though, hon!
Altarielaltariel on November 2nd, 2007 11:35 am (UTC)
This is where I discover my copy has gone walkabout, gah. Sorry I can't help. I'm pretty certain it's in Textual Poachers, it's certainly a quote I've read before.
Valderys: Macauley Connor - intellectual snobvalderys on November 2nd, 2007 03:17 pm (UTC)
Yep, that's what we think too, but can't prove it because I've looked and looked through the copy here in work, and can't find it!
Altarielaltariel on November 2nd, 2007 02:18 pm (UTC)
Shoving "'Fan fiction is a way of the culture repairing the damage" Jenkins into Google spits out answers that seem to confirm Jenkins says it in Textual Poachers. Wikipedia attributes it to him in Textual Poachers, but doesn't say what page, gah.
Valderys: Macauley Connor - intellectual snobvalderys on November 2nd, 2007 03:19 pm (UTC)
I know! It's the page number we can't find! Arrghh. It doesn't seem to be referenced anywhere. *mutters*
Katlinel the Darkeyedkatlinel on November 2nd, 2007 04:44 pm (UTC)
I skimmed through my copy earlier and couldn't find it either. (Er, that's not very helpful, is it? But I tried!)
bazworth on November 17th, 2007 02:08 am (UTC)
Numerous hits from google do refer to the quote being from Textual Poachers. However, if you use the Search Inside feature on Amazon, it doesn't find it in the book.

OK, some books don't have 100% of the text scanned. However, I went to questia.com which evidently does include entire books, and it didn't return the quote either. You have to be registered to see the results, but it tells you the pages it appears on under the search box. If you compare that with the Amazon Search Inside feature, you can see the results.

When searching Questia for the quote, which included books, newspapers, journals, encylopedias, and magazines, it didn't find it at all.

I hope you have had better luck since your original post.
Valderys: Macauley Connor - intellectual snobvalderys on November 19th, 2007 06:29 pm (UTC)
Luckily, my student decided that the above mentioned article in which we'd found Henry Jenkins quoted was good enough for her bibliography. Having said that - thank you for this! It's incredibly hard to prove a negative, so this makes me feel a lot better about being certain that it's not actually in the damn book in the first place!! :)