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16 November 2009 @ 12:09 am
The Waters of Mars  
OMG my flist is entirely covered in Doctor Who and Yuletide! :) For the record my Yuletide assignment is very exciting. Yay! I think it would be impossible to write the actual request I was matched with, which involves characters that I find dull, and I'm specifically forbidden to write the slash pairing I would want to write. But it doesn't matter! Because one of the other requests was a pairing that I should have thought about before - they're such a perfectly obvious, perfectly suited couple! So, apparently I'm writing historical RPS again this year... :)

And Doctor Who? Wow. So very good. Roll on Christmas...

I expect what I liked was very much what other people liked - particularly the Doctor going completely fuck-nuts at the end. I love David Tennant when he goes completely insane, he does it so well. I loved the reference to Pompeii, because, of course, this was the opposite kind of insanity to what the Doctor was like there - and of course he doesn't have a Companion at the moment, which we all know never helps.

I also thought Lindsay Duncan was stupendously good, she really sold it for me, because, TBH, I didn't care about the other characters, you don't get the cahnce to meet them for long enough. But she was a captain I would have followed into hell, and I cared about her. Brilliant.

I watched WofM with a mate who thought she was going to shoot the Doctor at the end, and I knew it was going to be suicide as soon as she pulled the gun, because that's the kind of captain she is.

Obviously the squee at the Master was great, as was Mrs Master, Donna and Wilf, although I knew about them all, so it wasn't as great as it could have been. Possibly there was more squee at blond Master than anything... So can't wait for how the Doctor is going to resolve himself, although I can see he'd be out to punish himself now, and as we know, hubris never ends well in the Whoniverse.
 
 
 
 Communicatorcommunicator on November 16th, 2009 10:43 am (UTC)
the Doctor going completely fuck-nuts at the end

This and blond Master. Cor blimey.
Valderys: Tenth Doctor - and his name is the Doctovalderys on November 16th, 2009 12:22 pm (UTC)
I think what I particularly liked was that despite the wonderfully tense, bleak inevitability of the tragic happenings on the base, what really frightened me wasn't any of that - it was the Doctor losing it. That's the truly terrifying thing. Very well done, I thought.
prochytes: Lukeprochytes on November 18th, 2009 07:48 pm (UTC)
That's the truly terrifying thing.

Quite. I think that I may indeed, as per Radio Times have found that the "scariest Doctor Who yet": not because of the aliens (it was a nice touch that we never even found out what they called themselves), but because the actual scariest thing in the Whoniverse went completely and chillingly mental. There is a reason the Daleks call him Ka Faraq Gatri, after all.
Our Drama Queen: doctor who handsome devilourdramaqueen on November 16th, 2009 07:13 pm (UTC)
OMG my flist is entirely covered in Doctor Who

Seriously?! Yours was the first entry about Who on mine, and so far there were only two more! o_O

The hardest moment was when he was walking away and you could hear the crew over his radio... *gulp* And yes, Adelaide was great, and I knew what she would do too, when she pulled the gun.

I really want to know what will happen in the next one... is it Christmas yet?!
Valderys: Tenth Doctor - and his name is the Doctovalderys on November 18th, 2009 09:01 am (UTC)
I was most horrified by the Doctor losing it, really, although I agree with others that it would have been fun to explore the Doctor going insane for a bit longer than a few seconds. And as for my flist - I have a lot of British fangirls on here now, so that might have been why!
prochytes: Lukeprochytes on November 17th, 2009 12:37 am (UTC)
Yes, indeed. Lindsay Duncan in particular was so awesome.
Valderys: Tenth Doctor - and his name is the Doctovalderys on November 18th, 2009 09:02 am (UTC)
I really thought so. And it was nice to see Phil Ford off his leash - it might be why it wasn't covered in RTDs excesses! :)
alba: Ten - profile hairalba17 on November 17th, 2009 04:05 am (UTC)
Yeah, I liked the very same things as you. It was quite terrifying for the Doctor to go all megalomaniac suddenly, although they pulled it back fairly quickly. Loved Lindsey Duncan. I also wondered if she was going to shoot the Dr. Mrs. Master? I missed that. I'm weirdly excited about blond Master too, hee.
Valderys: Tenth Doctor - and his name is the Doctovalderys on November 18th, 2009 02:13 pm (UTC)
It's a pity they pulled it back as quickly as they did, but I suppose I understand, it being a kiddie's programme and all that. Can't have the main hero going all Dark Side, after all!

I wonder whether the blond master is going to be a robot, or a clone, or a spirit possessing someone else...?
alba: Ten Waters of Mars firealba17 on November 18th, 2009 08:10 pm (UTC)
I totally agree that it's too bad they had to pull back evil!Doctor so quickly. Someone said it would have been interesting to see a few episode arc bringing him back to the good side. That would have been great. Can't wait to see how the Master comes back!

I had the same feeling about the first episode of S2 Merlin. It would have been really interesting to see Merlin possessed by the evil sorcerer for an episode or two. But guess you can't do that during the kiddie hour!
Malk: Rassillonmr_malk on November 17th, 2009 11:31 pm (UTC)
Yes, I really liked it. Just seen it on video. Was at the S&S Casting Meeting on Sunday. The Doctor's little... [scuse me, the stupid cat has forgotten how to use the cat-flap, and Wales has just let rip with its trademark weather condition]... um... peculiar moment was quite superb. You are right, David Tennant does that extremely well.

Do you think that at any point he will take it upon himself to try to change the outcome of the Time War (i.e. save the Timelords?) After all, the Daleks seem to come back every two or three episodes, so it's not like this wonderful "Time Lock" is exactly water-tight.

Blond Master. Hmm. That's gonna take some selling if you ask me. I had enough trouble taking him seriously without a beard!

Back on WofM though, I did rather enjoy the Doctor's doomed efforts to walk away, knowing/believing that it was the Right Thing To Do, and the way that the angst built up into his outburst at the conclusion. If I really look at it closely, I suspect that I'll find the provocation unconvincing, but as of now, I enjoyed it.

Good "monster" too. And I liked the Ice Warriors reference. And the "Speaking Ancient North Martian" bit. Could have sounded really cheesey, but he pulled it off well.
Valderys: Tenth Doctor - and his name is the Doctovalderys on November 18th, 2009 02:21 pm (UTC)
I'm fully expecting that the Time War and getting the Timelords back is going to be addressed in the last two episodes at Christmas. Then Rusty will sort of be handing over a clean plate to Stephen Moffat.

Possibly the fact that the Doctor has messed with a 'fixed point in time' could mean that other 'fixed points' can become unstuck :) Probably in a very dangerous way.

I liked all the old who mentions too - Ice Warriers! And also the mention of Pompeii, because of course this is the oppposite of what happened there, and he with no Companion!
Malkmr_malk on November 18th, 2009 02:52 pm (UTC)
Now I know what was bugging me.

In RTD-World, isn't the Doctor (and those he saved) now meant to be being pestered by big bat-like things, that eat everything anomalous, in order of age? Last time that happened, the Doctor's inherent Timelordiness didn't really help him much, IIRC.

I am also given to wonder about how the impending regeneration meshes with the Doctor's pending relationship with Dr Erin Sung (is that the right name? The one with the TARDIS diary?) She recognised the Doctor when she met him, meaning that she must have met Dr 10 on at least one other occasion.

Well... time will tell.
prochytesprochytes on November 18th, 2009 07:39 pm (UTC)
In RTD-World, isn't the Doctor (and those he saved) now meant to be being pestered by big bat-like things, that eat everything anomalous, in order of age?

Not really sure that's a problem, myself. The situation in Father's Day was not really the same as here: there was the additional burden on the spatiotemporal fabric of two other versions of Nine and Rose being there already, which in itself contravened the First Law of Time. And that bit of canon is as old as the hills (The Three Doctors, I think), even if The Doctor has repeatedly got away with trampling on it in desperate circumstances (as indeed in The Three Doctors) .

Also, Ten may have "initially" encountered River Song (Erin Sung was the guy who built Data in Star Trek: TNG, I think) some time between Journey's End and Planet of the Dead, or between Planet of the Dead and The Waters of Mars. It is clear from the old canon that we do not see everything he does, as some bits really do not work otherwise (as in the reprogramming of Xoanon in The Face of Evil).

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