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05 May 2009 @ 11:18 pm
Meme!  
There seems to be an unpopular fannish opinions meme going around. I'm not sure if this counts but I saw X-Men Origins: Wolverine on Sunday, and I loved it! Perhaps that's because I don't really know much of the comics - I read Excaliber for a while, but that's about it. It seemed a well done origins story to me, and oh, Hugh Jackman! *pets him* Gambit seems cool too, which is just as well, as I have to write him for a ficathon, and I'm concerned because I only know the movies - and I have to slash him with Scott! This was going to be impossible before this movie, and now I think my job will be a lot easier.
 
 
 
auntiemeeshauntiemeesh on May 6th, 2009 02:19 am (UTC)
I liked it too. As you say, Hugh Jackman! Wolverine being all angsty and heartbroken and action man and, well, yeah, I'm also a sucker for backstory, so it made me happy. :)
Valderys: Dom - eye see youvalderys on May 6th, 2009 11:06 am (UTC)
I know! Hugh Jackman just gets cuter! Although I worry for him a bit - he's very built up, and he's not a youngster anymore...
Lokiloki_dip on May 6th, 2009 08:35 am (UTC)
Is that an unpopular fannish opinion? I thought it was good! And Ryan Reynolds was possibly the creepiest thing I've ever seen at the end. ;p
Valderys: Dom - eye see youvalderys on May 6th, 2009 11:09 am (UTC)
I suspect it depends who you talk to - I gather anyone who is of a comic fandom bent hated it. It uses a backstory that was controversial when it came out, and has never been popular - so really comic fans were never going to like it! And obviously critics hated it too.
prochytesprochytes on May 6th, 2009 11:26 am (UTC)
I have yet to see it, but I do remember my jaw dropping at the evidence in the trailer that they had actually succeeded in making Gambit cool. This is a feat I had previously conisdered quite impossible. You are probably better off knowing him from the movies, rather than the comics, where amongst other problems he suffers from that most terrible of Marvel curses: "phonetic" spelling. To make things worse, the comics tend to ship him with Rogue, who also suffers from that ailment. This has the effect of making their dialogue almost incomprehensible on the written page: "'ow are you denn, mon cher?" "Why, sugah, ay do deeclare.." etc. *shudder*
Valderys: Dom - eye see youvalderys on May 7th, 2009 09:32 am (UTC)
My prompt has specifically asked for no Rogue, so that won't be a problem :) It's still going to be hard, I hate writing canon I don't know, but there's so much of it for X-Men, I can't exactly pick it up quickly. *sigh* I don't really get it, despite Wikipedia, how does Gambit's power work? Kinetic energy mean he throws things really hard? So how does he charge up the cards? And how does the power get too much for him? God, do I have to write him phonetically?
prochytesprochytes on May 7th, 2009 01:07 pm (UTC)
The history of his power is terribly complicated, but here is the pared-down version. According to the main Marvel site, he "has the mutant ability to tap into the potential energy contained within an object and transform it into kinetic energy upon touching it. When Gambit thus charges an object and throws it at a target, the object releases this energy explosively on impact."

Ergo, when he touches an object, its potential energy is released after a short delay in an explosion, which usually destroys the object and makes a bang. In general, the bigger the object, the bigger the bang (ooh, matron). There is presumably an upper limit to the size of the object which stops him nuking skyscrapers or suchlike, but I am not sure what it is. He tends to favour playing cards because they are a) rather stylish b) handy to throw and c) create a small enough explosion not to cause too much collateral damage. Gambit probably cannot make living tissue explode (the comics blow hot and cold on this limitation - it is presumably down to the general ick factor).

In addition, he can manipulate and augment the kinetic energy generated by his own body, which effectively makes him a bit stronger and more agile than a baseline human. Not by a huge amount, but enough to be noticeable - think Max and the other transgenics from Dark Angel for the general level.

Gambit also possesses a sort of low-level power of mental suggestion which makes weak-willed people likely to go along with his wishes: the Jedi Mind Trick, more or less. A lot of people ignore this, though, because a) it has no obvious relation to his primary power and b) it tended to be put to somewhat toe-curling uses in the comics (think Owen and the pheromone spray).

There is definitely no need to write him phonetically. And in all honesty, all the X-Men characters have been written in so many different ways down the years (even before one starts thinking about the alternate time-lines) that canonicity should not be too much of a worry.
Valderys: Dom - eye see youvalderys on May 8th, 2009 02:46 pm (UTC)
Thanks for this! It does help clear up a few things. Can I call on you for an opinion, to Marvel-pick, as it were, once I start writing it? I don't think I'll even try phonetic spelling, although I might throw in the odd 'mon cher' or two :)
prochytesprochytes on May 8th, 2009 04:09 pm (UTC)
Can I call on you for an opinion, to Marvel-pick, as it were, once I start writing it?

I would be delighted. Be warned that I am far from authoritative on most of X-continuity, however.

don't think I'll even try phonetic spelling, although I might throw in the odd 'mon cher' or two :).

Yup, a bit of token French will give the authentic Gambit feel nicely.

[Interesting addendum, tangentially based on your current icon: whenever I try to write Gambit dialogue in my head, I hear Sawyer delivering it (even though Cajun sounds a bit different from most Southern accents). I suppose it is the "rugged and morally ambiguous Southern con-man" connexion :)]
Kalypso: Avonkalypso_v on May 6th, 2009 12:10 pm (UTC)
I suppose my most unpopular fannish opinion ever was that Avon wasn't very interested in sex.
Valderys: Avon - slightly sanevalderys on May 7th, 2009 08:00 am (UTC)
Anna Grant? Although I can see that she might have made him swear off it for life!