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20 September 2008 @ 02:36 pm
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So does anyone else like it that Dean is *totally* lying about remembering nothing about Hell? :)

Actually this episode was all about the lying - Dean lying to Sam about confronting Castiel, and Sam lying to Dean about the psychic stuff and Ruby. I wonder if it's going to become a theme all the way through?

OMG, Sam is sleeping with Ruby! That is so going to piss Dean off when he realises. Not to mention that it's going to bite them on the ass - or ought to. And if it doesn't, I should so write it happening, because sleeping with a demon cannot come to good, even an (apparently) nice one, like Ruby. Although that is something that is cool about this show, that it's always had - despite its seeming uncompromising attitude, SPN is so utterly grey in its morals and ambiguity. I love it! :)

Ok. I have to say I am a little ball of joyous squee now. An angel! Oh yes! That's going to fuck them over royally, I bet, because he's hardly Arizaphale, now is he? Can we say fallen? I think we can, kiddies :) Also, we only have his word for it that he is, indeed, an angel, and although it's a pretty cool word, I still wouldn't trust him further than I can chuck him.

Actually, he reminds me of Tilda Swinton's Gabriel in Constantine - the one (possibly only) good thing in that movie - and we know how that ended, don't we? I'm so looking forward to this - well, as long as they don't cock it up and go all sanctimonious and saccharine. I hope they don't.

One last thing, I can ignore it, but it made me uncomfortable. Why was it *yet another* female demon they have to confront? Just so Sam and Dean get to hit yet another woman? It's getting disturbing, guys. Stop it.
 
 
 
Ashpurplephoenix03 on September 20th, 2008 08:59 pm (UTC)
I'm glad i wasnt the only one who made the Gabriel connection — and just like on Constantine, I dont think that Castiel is wholly good either!
Valderys: Dean - Maybe I want to look cheapvalderys on September 20th, 2008 10:08 pm (UTC)
Although one idea someone had - seperis, I think - is that Castiel isn't fallen, so much as God has a plan that Dean will have problems, in the end, going along with. For example, if Castiel's mission is to bring about the apocalypse in the sure knowledge that all the good humans are going to heaven... I think Dean, although being exactly the kind of single-minded weapon God would like, will ultimately reject helping him end the world.
waitin' round the bend: SPN: dean grossir0nically_no on September 20th, 2008 09:06 pm (UTC)
because sleeping with a demon cannot come to good, even an (apparently) nice one, like Ruby.
I read this somewhere yesterday - sleeping with a demon is essentially rape. I mean, you have an innocent person (whose body the demon is inhabiting), conscious but unable to control their own body. Incredibly creepy stuff.

I'm looking forward to how they deal with angels as well (even if Castiel is in fact fallen, which a lot of people seem to believe). If Castiel is telling the truth and he is there because God has some sort of plan for Dean, that in itself should be interesting. Dean is working with the angels and Sammy is the antichrist. Love it.
Valderys: Dean - Maybe I want to look cheapvalderys on September 20th, 2008 10:17 pm (UTC)
Oh yes - I hadn't thought of that! Although, nicely ambiguous, by the same token, Castiel has killed the meatsuit he's inhabiting when Dean stabbed him - unless being an angel means he can heal the damage properly and not just defer it until the possession is over. Although the whole burned eyes thing, argues that he won't... Hmm.

Angel vs antichrist: that's definitely the way they're going to take it, isn't it? I thought something like that might happen when no angel contact happened when Sam was around. Although it could be that if Sam does confront Castiel he'll see something other than an angel, maybe? And there are arguements for both fallen and not fallen Castiel - see above, he doesn't seem to care about the dead humans that were possessed, or the burned psychic - although that could be because he knows that if they're good they'll go to heaven, so their actual *lives* don't matter.